Beyond The Wall – Season 2 – Ep. 1

Wow, what a week. Audio difficulties aplenty… but I finally finished the editing. This baby clocks in at 2 hours and 7 minutes, and the audio still isn’t what I’d like it to be, but it has to go out. I haven’t had a chance to even listen to the final audio file, so if there are editing gaffs, please let me know.

Reminder… this show is NOT safe for work. We’ve got dead babes, an increasingly intoxicated host as the episode goes on, and after all, the studio is now called the “Neverpanties Ranch,” so you get what you get.

Episode 1 – The North Remembers

P.G. Holyfield moderates this week’s panel discussion with Chooch,Vivid Muse (both “in studio”), Christiana and Nutty.

Hosts:
P.G. Holyfield (author of Murder at Avedon Hill and SFM Founder
Nuchtchas (Host of Nutty Bites Podcast)
Chooch (Into the Blender Podcast Co-Host, and bassist of Ditched By Kate)
Vivid Muse (Into the Blender Podcast Co-Host), Girls’ Rules Podcast Host)
Christiana Ellis (too many podcasts to list here ;-) but you can check out all things Christiana at her site.

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13 Comments

  1. patman says:

    Listening to the podcast now. I'm glad you enjoyed the first episode so much, PG.

  2. Doc Coleman says:

    Woot! Episode!

    Putting this at the front of tomorrow's listening.

    Doc

  3. Max Tesla says:

    Hey hey kids

    You guys are great

    I am listening to season 1 and re-watching season 1
    I know this is a comment about season 2 but just wanted to inform you that so far up to episode 6 you guys are really good

    I think I will catch up during the next few days

    Then I will face the big question should I watch season 2, as each episode comes out, OR wait for them all and see them together

    I have seen episode 1 and 2 of season 2 and only time will tell if I have the discipline to see them all together instead of one at a time

    I personally would prefer to see them all together instead of seeing one then waiting a week for the next one.

    Anyway keep up the good work and continue to be funny

    • Vivid Muse says:

      I struggle with "content mainlining" decisions as well. It is a different experience when waiting a week to find out what happens next than skipping through the credits to the next episode. In this case, along with doing the podcast, I'm finding that I'm examining episodes deeper (and repeatedly) because I have the wait until the next episode.

      It really comes down to where you think you'll find the most enjoyment.

      Many thanks for listening, and also for the kind comments!

  4. Max Tesla says:

    One thing really bothers me And it bothers me so much that I am writing it here! :)

    Also I don't think you guys check old comments so might as well post it somewhere where you will check it ;)

    It is was one of your comments in episode 6 season 1 way back when 10.000 years ago

    The scene is that after Bran gets attack by wildlings whilst riding with his new saddle Rob kills a few and Theon kills one with an arrow

    After that scene Theon tells Rob that they the Starks MUST attack the Lanisters to avenge the dishonor of Jamie attacking Ned

    And the part that bothers me is when you all said that Theon was jumping the gun except 1 who kinda disagreed

    I have not read the books but this is my impression from the tv series

    There was no jumping of any gun!!!!

    This is how Theon is, a punk ass kid who has the same mental capabilities as all those wannabe gangsters that run around killing each other because someone somewhere “disrespected their ride Yo yo yo”

    Just a punk ass kid who will react to any situation with hormones and no intellectual thought process

    So no, he was not jumping the gun, he was just being a complete and absolute troglodyte.

    At that point in time there was no need for war and no one was thinking of war but Theon will always given any situation come up with the must hair brained alternative, except of course the one time when he saved Bran in that specific situation he did the right thing, but all other times he is a complete neanderthal

    Anyway that thing really bothered me

    Cheers :)

    • Nuchtchas says:

      FYI, we do get comments all the way back to last season, I know for myself, I have the RSS for all the comments on this site in my google reader so I don't miss a single comment, I don't always reply here because I know we will address it in the show

      Also, you are right, it was well within Theon's character to jump the gun, and yes, that is how Theon is… I can't remember what I said last season but your observations are clear and we welcome you to always share them. Good luck with either waiting to see the rest of the season or watching along with us

    • Vivid Muse says:

      I agree with both Nutty and P.G on all points.

      Keep it coming for the upcoming feedback show! We are scheduling it soon-ish.

  5. pgholyfield says:

    I see your point, Max. :)

    Be sure not to let anything I say bother you. I'm an idiot. ;-)

  6. patman says:

    Great podcast! Here's some random comments.

    I have to admit to a certain amount of Man-Love for Ser Jorah myself.

    I didn't have an issue with Alton Lannister not being blond. Although the children of Lady Joanna Lannister are all blond, I'd expect cousins and other relations to have a variety of hair color. I think Nutty pointed out that Alton is being an analog for the book character Cleos Frey, and it's probably just as well to not confuse the viewing audience with a Frey family participating on the Lannister side.

    I also thought Alton looked a bit too much like Gendry.

    I know you all were sensitive to the foreshadowing hammer, but I honestly did not notice it that much, or it didn't bother me.

    Looking forward to hearing the podcast for The Night Lands

    • Nuchtchas says:

      I think if we weren't directing the show for the podcast there are a lot of things we talk about that might not have "bothered" us or even occurred to us…. OK it would have occurred to me because I have been picking apart this series for over seven years now, I can't stop.

      I also wonder if they made a point to have Alton Lanister not look like a lanister to show that their seed is not strong? Or, they might no have even though about it when casting someone so small :)

      I make mention of the foreshadowing hammer, and while it's obvious, I laughed at it as much as I laughed at Roz's sexposition last year.

  7. Steven says:

    Can you guys try a little harder not to ruin shit just because you've read the books. From your S2E1 podcast, you imply 1) Bran turns into a direwolf, 2) The red witch is some sort of goddess and 3) Rob Stark is going to die soon. I really didn't want any of this information.

    • Vivid Muse says:

      While I greatly respect your opinion, and the time you spent in sharing it with us, please remember we are simply fans of varying knowledge of this book series. Some know Book 2 intimately, some have not read it recently or at all. We are respectful of the non-readers, more so than some other fan shows out there that enjoy demonstrating their knowledge with no regard to being spoilery. NEVER the case here.

      We take GREAT effort not to tell anything from beyond what the most recent episode (and upcoming episode clips, occasionally) covers, but like most opinion shows, shit may get ruined unintentionally. Trust me, with my husband not having read anything beyond Book 1, it is PAINFUL to watch it and discuss it with him while not giving away any of the truly amazing journey this series later takes you on. It is excruciating to me that he's chosen not to read them and I hope he changes his mind. But I quiet the screaming in my head and continue to hopefully dodge accidental spoilers, like trying not to gasp when a book favorite/series unknown character enters the screen for the first time.

      And to be quite honest, anyone that has read the books can tell you that they are making changes to the story. Changing, adding and deleting characters and events. In truth, we don't have a clue what is around the corner, because it may not be deemed Award-Winning Material for Television.

      My humble suggestion is that you don't take our word as gospel. As careful as we are, anytime you have a series based on books already written and in the wild for decades, spoilers will surface. Hell, even the episode titles can be spoilery, which is why I never look at them or the mass majority of casting/behind the scenes information. Well, not since Peter Dinklage was cast as Tyrion. At that point, I entrusted HBO with subsequent choices and they've not let me down.

      I feel PG covered the specific points accurately, and I fully support them.

      Respectfully,
      ~Viv

  8. pgholyfield says:

    Sorry dude, but we pretty much pride ourselves on not being spoilery. I'll re-listen to the episode, but from memory all we did was:

    1) point out that in Bran's dream he obviously has a connection to his dire wolf, Summer, just as Bran's dreams of the three eyed crow in Season 1 had some greater meaning.
    2) I have no idea what you're talking about concerning Melisandre. She's not a goddess and I don't think we implied such a thing. I called her a witchy woman, we pointed out the color of the jewel on her necklace glowing… but nothing about her being a goddess.
    3) It's a running joke across the internets that you don't want a Stark to ever say goodbye, considering Ned said more than once last season "I'll tell you more next time I see you." We didn't mean to imply anything more than that, but if any Stark says goodbye to someone else in the future, we're going to make that joke. It's funny. Our panel member that hasn't read the book (Chooch) wondered out loud if there may be more to it than that, but we didn't imply anything other than referencing Ned's death from Season 1.

    We will do our best though to not spoil anything in the future, as we have in the past, as we have had many comments from people that they like that about our show. I apologize if our discussion gave you that feeling, but we certainly didn't intend to do that.

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